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Hating movies isn’t something that comes easy to me.

I’m inclined to love cinema but some science fiction movies simply suck.

Here are ten (and more) that I think were made by people who needed a good kick in the Arriflex.

00:00 Intro- Eric Blair’s novel
00:50 Battlefield Earth
02:36 Disney’s Science Fiction Movies
04:05 2001: A Space Odyssey
06:12 Proximity
07:15 Red Planet Mars
08:28 A Sound Of Thunder
10:20 Atlas Shrugged Trilogy
13:55 Passengers
15:44 The Stepford Wives
17:40 Avatar and Avatar The Way of Water
20:22 Outro

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  1. I agree with you about 2001. I went to the local theater to watch 2001 and found myself underwhelmed. It was decent, but definitely not a cinematic masterpiece.

  2. I saw "The Black Hole" the day after Christmas, 1979. I had been breathlessly awaiting it all that Fall because of the TV spots. I was 10 and had the novel and various cartoon books…still do. I was horribly disappointed. Today, I enjoy it as a sublime, ridiculous failure with some good effects…and some bad ones. "Red Planet Mars." This is one of the most outrageous 50's sci films of the 50's, along with "The 27th Day". I enjoy it, but as a really weird oddity. It's hard to find on physical media; I have the laserdisc in a United Artists 4-film set and that's the best-looking version I've found to this day.

  3. Wow, passengers came out in 2016!! Time sure goes by fast doesn't it. Just discovered your channel, I'm a fan immediately. You are very succinct and I like your dry presentation. I will be binge watching all your videos. Greetings from Maryland USA.

  4. I once saw, or rather saw some of a science fiction movie, it may not have been a good one, but always kinda would have liked to know what it was called,: It was another astronauts landing on mars movie, at some point, do not remember how it happens, the sstronauts find there way into an underground cave systems populated by a civilization of humans, that seem to resemble one of the old civilizatons of earth, possibly Babylon, they have some high tech, and it is revealed that the humans of earth where in fact descendants of all criminals that had been exiled from "there perfect society" on mars to the wild, primitive and barbaric world of earth. does it ring any bells? friendly greetings from me 🙂

  5. Interesting to see someone hating a film that‘s dear to my heart as my favorite movie of all time, with nothing even coming close.

    Taste is a fun thing.

  6. As with many adequate films, Paula Prentis did superior job on the1975 version of The Stopford Wives. She seemed to have lead a happy life (overcoming many challenges), which is more important than a career that lived up to her abilities.

  7. Less travels by air or truck in the US than you think.

    I had an interesting conversation with a lady US Army Reserve Transportation Corps Captain about thirty years ago. She said that you would know things were about to go south in the US when you saw trains being sabotaged . . . .

  8. He was a shyster, a con artist . . . and an adequate writer of pulp science fiction and an adequate Naval Reserve Officer.

    His toweringly adequate performance in minor roles in life probably didn't overcome the harm his other pursuits in life generally caused . . .

  9. Saw 2001 when first released and enjoyed it. It was groundbreaking for that time. Battlefield Earth the movie was horrible, but I thoroughly enjoyed the book … but could't get through any of his follow-ups.

  10. The last half-hour of 2001 is a mess, but the film did such a good job of predicting what AI would be like. They literally predicted webcams, that annoying even-toned AI voice, even iPads. At a time when most American households didn't even have colour TV!

  11. There was a time when I thought anything Disney did was wonderful. Then there was The Black Hole that made see it wasn't. 2001 wasn't about story or even character. It was spectacle. There is now the perfect response to anyone who would want a Stepford Wife, Companion.

  12. Well, I gotta disagree with you on 2001. I'm sure a lot of others did, too. Yeah, the story is thin and at times, dull. But that's entirely beside the point. Kubrick wasn't there to tell a story; neither was Clarke. It was about making a science fiction visual art film, something that had never been done before. The dance of the spacecraft was far more important than anything that happened in the plot.

    My big complaints about the movie are twofold. First, a small thing, but it really sticks in my craw, given the basic conception of 2001 as visual art and how easily it could have been fixed: Kubrick blew the transition from the thrown bone club to an orbiting nuclear weapon. He couldn't have properly aligned the damn things to make that clearer? And also, you couldn't have made a satellite that looked s bit more like an orbital weapon? That cut would have worked s lot better if they'd just tried harder.

    The second is more fundamental: the technology wasn't up to the task of depicting Bowman's voyage into the Monolith. Kubrick was trying for trippy and mind-expanding, what he got was boring and confusing. It's a case of a director falling in love with his idea and ignoring the fact that it just wasn't working as intended. Kubrick didn't need to get rid of that sequence, but he did need to trim it considerably. Yes, weird things are happening outside, we get it, let's move on, the movie is already pretty long; nobody is gonna feel gypped if you chop out two thirds of the light show.

    And hell, if you want a solid story, there's always 2010, which I also love, even if it's more than a little ridiculous to have a mid-level politician journey out to Jupiter himself to find out what the hell happened.

  13. Battlefield Earth and the Black Hoe are low hanging fruit. I do agree with you about 2001. Great special effects does not a good movie make. A good story and good characters are important and 2001 is severely lacking in both. I disagree about Passengers though.

  14. I saw The Black Hole back in when it came out as a 15 year old and absolutely hated it. It's still as close as I've ever come to walking out of a movie screening – Disney just couldn't resist putting in a stupid-looking 'cute' robot. Nice to hear someone point out that the 2001: A Space Odyssey emperor is wearing very few clothes indeed. I had no clue that Atlas Shrugged had a trilogy of movies! Does anyone explain who cleans the toilets in this world where the 'superior intellects' and bosses clear off and form their own society? There is a great story waiting to be written where the story of Atlas Shrugged happened and these great brains discover that they not only needed poor people, but that some of them will end up being treated like crap in their new society because they can't bear to form a society where everyone is treated equally.

  15. Wow, I saw 2001 in the theater in San francisco in 1968, with Cinerama. I remember not enjoying it, I was 11 years old, and found it kind of reaky, but I realized when I left the theater, I woulde not forget this movie. I hae always wanted to see THE BLACK HOLE.

  16. Don't hate any movies, even enjoy some bad ones. Most of your list I don't like eithet. 2001 is a definite watch for everyone, has one good interesting character – Hal. But ultimately, like you i didnt ike the plot. Avatar I enjoyed the visuals but that had worn out by the 2nd movie. My only real disagreement is Passengers. You criticised Avatar for its unoriginal plot. Then, critise Passengers for daring to have a plot we've never seen before. Yes, the premise is awful, but humans are like this in the real world. Many movies delve into the darker side of human nature, just not usually romance movies…. The is a real-life case of a woman who had a long term stalker. She had him jailed eventually. When he got out, he blinded her. She now needed a long-term carer, had no money (US healthcare), so married the stalker as he was the only one willing to care for her.

  17. I remember eating a Black Hole Ice-lolly. Saw it in the cinema as a kid…underwhelming, considering Star Wars had come out 2 years previously. Just a cash-in. Silent Running is a better movie than 2001.

  18. Passengers would have been much better if one of them was a serial killer: The voyage is a great way to hide out until the heat's off, with the added benefit of being a hundred of trillions miles out of jurisdiction. Then either:

    (a) when his pod opens early and he has lots of time to kill …he has plenty of people to toy with and kill too.

    (b) or some loser wakes up the serial killer and gets what he deserves. She can make a novel out of it and send the chapters back to Earth as she finishes each of them …off. (It'll help the company make back the money for all those dead passengers.)

    And definitely, the ending of 2001 was incomprehensible to those who hadn't read the book (and maybe many who had).

  19. At a party attended by Asimov and Heinlein while discussing the low rates SCI-Fi commanded, Ron Hubbard commented "…Religion, that's where the money is.." and a few months later he wrote "Cybernetics". "2001" was a beautiful movie to watch, but Kubrick was always about beauty and less about characters. And of course, try to name a character from any book written by Arthur Clarke! Ayn Rand was addicted to Heroin so none of her "Atlas" novels make any sense so there was no way the movie version would be any better. "Avatar never made sense to me either, on the whole planet the only location of obtanium is under that tree?

  20. Disappointed and disagree with you about 2001: a Space Odyssey, my number one science fiction film of all time. You are wrong about the thinness of the plot and the lack of interesting character (HAL is a pseudo character; AI does not exist and probably never will, though Bowman himself leaves the question up in the air). And of course, the set design and special effects are fantastic for the time, and no CGI. By the way, I love Mad Magazines parody of it (as they did with many other films, many of them my favorites), 2001: a Space Idiocy. Cracked me up! Their satires are always on point. Oh, and the religious overtones don't bother me. But I'll reserve further comment for the future.

  21. 2001 is about the fact that evolution has stalled; humans have come to lack a fundamental curiosity and sense of wonder. They have become less "evolved" than their tools/machines. That's why they seem thin and communicate entirely via banal small talk (sandwiches, business meeting jargon etc). Kubrick even intentionally cast bland looking actors like William Sylvester, Keir Dullea and Gary Lockwood. The story is told abstractly and elliptically and works on multiple levels. It creates its own sense of time and space from the ground up. The passage of time both on the micro and macro scale is one of the subjects. It's a film about ideas not characters.

  22. You missed the most interesting character in 2001: HAL.
    Also, the "flatness" of the human characters emphasizes HAL's human-like acting.
    Lastly, this is a pure metaphysical movie, which should not be judged by the standards of sci-fi action movies.

  23. I'm glad to see you calling out so many of the movies I either hated or flat out refused to watch, but especially 2001 and Avatar. 2001, at least lead to stuff like Star Wars, but it by far pales in comparison. Avatar doesn't have that excuse, and as you said, it definitely smacks of cultural appropriation. Once I finished watching it the only time I did, all I could say was that it was a white boy's dream of saving Native Americans. It's just gross. I refuse to watch the sequel at all.

  24. Interstellar is the the top of my recent sci-fi films that I hate . I agree with your list except for 2001 which I have grown to tolerate. Black Hole was ruined by those terrible Disney robots.

  25. I’m ashamed to admit that I sat through the entirety of both “Battlefield Earth” and “Distant Sound of Thunder”. At least the latter had a somewhat interesting premise…

  26. We can agree to differ on 2001 and it'd be dull if we all liked the same things. It's one of my favourite films of all time. Films led by concept rather than plot or character can be great when they work and for me this does, spectacularly.

  27. I sat through the first Avater (Dances with Wolves in space) and grew tired of the lecture that it presented as story. Cameron is a superb pablum seller but the disguise on this one was far too thin.

  28. 2001 completely fell apart for me as soon as the "light show" happened and ended. I then knew this was the work of a director with his head too far up his arse. I had some hopes for the ending, but it ended up being a much much shallower version of Evangelion's or Gideon's ending without any of the incredible human depth that Evangelion had.I see 2001 as almost religious propaganda at this point.